plato’s Republic book 8 and 9

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1/In Plato’s Republic, Socrates argues that the democratic man has no coherence, no rational order, and no ethical compass through which rational order might be achieved. What arguments does Socrates use to advance this view against the type of individual democratic tend to produce? Are his arguments persuasive? WHY, or why not? (Pay particular attention to book 8 and 9)
2/In Plato’s Republic, Socrates argues that the tyrant is characterized above all by his eros, by the desire to have more and more honors, wealth and power. Yet the tyrannical man who most appears to enjoy freedom and power over others is actually a salve! What arguments does socrates use to advance this view against the tyrannical man? Are his arguments persuasive? Why, or why not? (Pay attention to Book 8 and 9)

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